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=Matt=

First of all I’d like to mention that the 5D mk2 sample gallery is up.

http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/canoneos5dmkii_preview/

Cut and paste that to your browser if you really wanna see, otherwise just save DPReview the bandwidth and take my word for it:

High ISO performance looks like the D3 more or less, except 21 megapixels instead of 12. Very decent and clean 6400, totally use-able 12800 for even professional prints of smaller sizes, and a “fun” 25600 that will be great for low-light, “moody B&W” images. Obviously when you down-sample the 21 megapixel files to 12 megapixels for comparison, the 5D mk2 will hold a bit of an advantage over the D3 / D700. Not sure if it’s going to equal more than 1 full stop noise advantage, but I stopped counting when we got a clean ISO 3200, seriously!

It is also important to note that the samples are from pre-production models, so theoretically the final image quality may be a tad better!

I’m very curious to see how the final production models compare to Canon’s “other” 21 megapixel sensor in the 1Ds mk3. Will canon actually be delivering a BETTER performing sensor in a body that costs less than half as much? Or will there be some kind of image quality advantage retained in the 1Ds mk3? I’ll let the official reviewers determine that!

Okay, now for the REAL DISCUSSION:

…I’ve never seen a more polarized, love-it-or-hate-it situation in my whole 5+ years as a photographer. The Canon 5D mk2 is “the light and the glory” to some, and to others it is nothing but nails on a Canon coffin.

The biggest controversy is that Canon went for WAYYY more megapixels than Nikon’s current standard of 12, and decided to leave OUT many pro-grade features like the 45 point AF, full spot metering, true weather sealing, and speed.

I will openly admit that I’m mostly in the coffin-nails camp.

HOWEVER, I’ll be the first to admit that, for those who shoot in very still conditions, at very small apetures like f/8, (both studio and landscape photographers fall into this category) …the 21 megapixel sensor in such an affordable body truly IS a holy grail for those who need the resolution. (Again, studio and landscape photographers) To have a hopefully gorgeous 21 full-frame megapixels at your disposal for a mere $2700, well it’s surely a thing of beauty that Nikon cannot currently touch at all…

Here’s the problem. Myself, and many other wedding photographers, are wedding shooters with a strong photojournalistic, peak-action shooting style. And almost everybody I know uses a 5D for wedding photography. The problem is, you’re taking a studio camera OUT of the studio and into a fast-paced “big day”, and trying to snap shots as a photojournalist.

This is where the camera’s low frame rate, SINGLE cross-type AF point, 73ms shutter lag, etc. all make the 5D-series, well, honestly not much better than my OLD D70 or your rebel… I’m not trying to exaggerate here and make the 5D-series look horrible, but it is simply as close to the truth as I want to get without turning away my Canon readers.

“Well, Canon has to protect their 1Ds lineup and feature set, what do you expect- a 1Ds mk3 without the grip for $3000?” Or almost equally head-in-the-sand, “Pshh, 45 point autofocus, spot metering linked to each focus point, 5+ FPS, those are all just bells and whistles that we can do without…”

1.) Better speak up, Canon fans, Nikon didn’t get the memo on “protecting” it’s pro series features. We have the D700!

2.) You obviously have not shot theater, gymnastics, etc.

So first of all, let’s let the studio and landscape shooters buy their 5D mk2 and be totally happy. The price and the minimal weather sealing is more than enough to tempt even ME as a landscape photographer. But I don’t do that professionally, so…

Now that THEY are happy, (and not listening anymore) …Canon shooters, wake up and smell the trickle-down pro features! Even my D300, now valued at more than $1000 less than the 5D mk2, has almost every pro feature that the $5000 D3 has. INCLUDING a shutter lag time that beat even Canon’s flagship sports camera, the 1D3.

But okay, in the spirit of avoiding a 100% Nikon versus Canon debate, I’ll point out that both the 40D and 50D have a potentially better AF system, too. (All AF points on both of those cameras are cross-type, even the far edge ones, which in my opinion might even be a better idea than Nikon’s current 51 point setup. I think Nikon made a poor decision with their current AF point arrangement.)

The bottom line is that Canon very strongly believes in protecting it’s top line of professional features, and I don’t see how SOME shooters who may require those features have continued to put up with Canon for this long. It doesn’t have to be this way! You do not HAVE to spend $4000-8000 to get pro features!!!

If you like Canon because they have a better lens assortment than Nikon, (and they do) …then get OFF your full-frame high horse and buy a 40D / 50D to use for your action shots. Or go out and get an old 1D mk2!!! You will thank me later! If you use f/2.8 zooms mostly, then honestly, go down to your local camera store and TRY the D700 + 24-70 2.8. Chances are you will thank me PROFUSELY…

I guess you can tell that I don’t care if I sound preachy. I think that we can all admit that Nikon has been coming out with some killer cameras recently that break new ground as far as offering pro-grade features at an advanced-amateur price. And I KNOW we can all agree that ALL the cameras on the market today can definitely deliver the absolute finest quality images.

I only want to convince everyone, Canon and Nikon shooters alike, to buy the RIGHT TOOL for the job. Don’t let any “bandwagon effect” influence your buying decisions. It just so happens that a lot of Canon bodies / lenses have a bandwagon effect, and I wish those people would all wake up and smell the trickle-down. But even on the Nikon side, the D3 had a HUGE bandwagon, and tons of people bought D3′s just because it was awesome and new, when what they really needed was the D700.

So all I want to say is, buy the RIGHT tool for the job! REFUSE to be influenced by camera geeks who blindly tout Canon OR Nikon, full-frame or crop… YOU go out and try the equipment out for yourself, and buy the stuff that gets your jobs done…

Thank you. Please feel free to rip on me, I think my arguments are sound enough and the facts are plain enough…

=Matt=

[EDIT]

Thankfully, it seems that many Canon users are actually quite happy with the 5D mk2. Reading Vincent Laforet’s blog, It is ALL about the 1080p HD video, and the borderline pathetic AF module is hardly an issue. Apparently most people only ever use the center focus point anyway?

I guess I just have to shrug, keep on shooting Nikon, and try not to care as much about “helping” other photographers get the “right” camera. I guess bandwagons can be fun, HD video can be useful, and probably WILL totally revolutionize the world of low-light video recording. So, way to go, Canon, your marketing department will probably sell out the 5D mk2 for a year. If you want one, pre-order it NOW! I should just be happy that Nikon has come far enough that when a Canon user says their camera is better, I can smirk and chuckle instead of wince… Fair enough!

IN OTHER NEWS, reading the comments has provided a few interesting side notes. Vincent is creating a pretty extensive video production from his shoot with the 5D mk2, and excitement is building around that; even Smugmug corporate offered to host the full 1080P video with unlimited bandwidth… Vincent also hinted at a few things, including: The Canon XH-A1 video cameras don’t even come close to comparing with the 5D mk2′s low-light video capability, thanks to super-clean ISO 1600, 3200, and 6400 when you’re down-sampling ~21 megapixels to ~2 megapixels. (1080×1920) Also, Vincent hinted that he figures Canon will make a “big brother” to the 5D mk2 sooner or later. Could this be the now mythical 3D, with pro-series features at a less-than-1D-mk3 price? I hope so, Canon would be totally redeeming themselves that’s for sure!

=Matt=

[EDIT 2] Well, the 1080p video shot on the 5D mk2 by Vincent Laforet is indeed EPIC and beautiful, a fantastic use of shallow DOF that may not have ever been possible before. Now with the whole 35mm sensor to shoot on, and crazy lenses from 50 f/1.2 to 400 2.8, and tilt-shift lenses etc, …it’s pretty gorgeous considering you can do everything with “existing” photographic gear. There are still a couple issues that keep it from being as versatile as traditional video, with respect to capture speed, but nonetheless the footage is epic. Check out Vincent’s blog to see the videos.

So, everybody seems to be pretty excited about the 5D mk2. And those who are excited, are ecstatic. Glad to hear it!

There is however still a strong dissent among those who are rightfully upset concerning Canon’s persistence in refusing to incorporate some professional features in the lower price point bodies. If you want certain features, Canon has made it very clear that they want you to spend no less than $4,100 on a 1D mk3. (Or as much as $7,800 on a 1Ds mk3…) Personally, I’d stick it to Canon by either buying a used 1-series, ($2500-$3500!) or a D700. In fact as a long-term purchase, the D700 makes the absolute most sense out of any camera from any brand on the market today, period. Especially considering the speed boost and pro-series battery compatibility that you get with the vertical grip.

=Matt=

Full-frame? PSHHHH!! Haha… How about SUPER-FRAME? (I dunno, just made it up!)

But seriously folks. Leica just announced a DSLR with a 30x45mm sensor. That’s 56% larger than full-frame, with the same 2:3 image ratio.

Thirty-seven megapixels!

There is almost no other information, except for the fact that it should be about the same size as other flagship DSLR’s out there, it has weather-sealing, and dual shutters, one an in-lens leaf shutter that ought to allow infinitely high flash sync.

Speaking of lenses, they of course have a full range of new lenses to go with this new monster format. In this particular format, 70mm is the new 50mm.

It is going to be a VERY interesting Photokina, and that’s ALL I’m gonna say for now!

Back to work,
=Matt=

I’ll probably have to edit this soon when they announce the 85 1.4 at the same time. (HOPEFULLY!)

But we now have a new AFS 50mm f/1.4 from Nikon. WAY smaller than the Sigma, it is obviously a much less ambitious design. No aspherical elements, no ED elements, no Nano coating.

HOPEFULLY it is incredibly sharp, since they CLAIM that it is a complete re-design of the optical formula!

Listed price is allegedly going to be $440. GO NIKON for offering AFFORDABLE quality! (Hopefully. Fingers crossed!)

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08092201nikkor_50mm_1_4glens.asp

=Matt=

[EDIT]

Hmmmm… Some published MTF charts for the old Nikon 50 1.4, the new, and the Sigma.

Hmm, those lines don’t give much hope to those who are hoping the new Nikon is sharper than the new Sigma! Considering the Nikon won’t be here until December, it’s going to be a LONG wait to see which is the champ!

If it’s CLOSE in the sharpness department, hopefully the Nikon will be lightning fast, and THAT would sell me…

=Matt=

Luck, or divine providence, shines upon us today.

Carl Zeiss, the maker of LITERALLY some of the world’s most flawless, stunning camera lenses, is releasing one of the world’s most legendary, no, mythical lenses in both the Canon, Nikon and Pentax mount…

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Zeiss Distagon T* 21mm f/2.8!!!

A manual focus, “prime” lens costing maybe $1,800, few of YOU (and I) will ever even consider this lens. But as a landscape photographer at heart, let me tell you, it is a holy grail. Canon users have long ago adapted the original version of this lens to their full-frame 1-series DSLR’s, and the lens literally makes a laughing stock out of even the finest of Canon’s L lenses, AND even Nikon’s newest legend, the 14-24… In the corners, that is. Dead-center all Canon / Nikon lenses are pretty perfect by f/8 or f/16, where most landscape shooters find themselves. But in the corners of the 35mm frame, The Zeiss is, well, in a league of it’s own. Don’t believe me?

Old Zeiss 21mm versus Nikon 14-24 and Zeiss 17-35
Old Zeiss 21mm versus Nikon 17-35 and Canon 17-40

I should have warned you, if you ever thought your Canon / Nikon wide-angle lenses had sharp corners. The Zeiss slaughters them, looking as sharp at f/2.8 in the extreme corner than any of the other lenses at ANY apeture, pretty much.

So yeah. I’m sure that landscape photographers are going to jump for Joy when Nikon can come out with a quality 24 megapixel FX sensor, and hopefully in a lighter / smaller D700 body and not the massive D3 body, so people can bear it (literally) out INTO the landscape. Maybe I’ll buy that setup when I have a mid-life crisis and need some expensive, rolex-of-photography type toys to cheer me up!

…IN OTHER NEWS, we begin to see Canon 5D mk2 sample photos…

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos5dm2/html/sample2_e.html

I *really* don’t want to be quick to judge, but neither can I resist pointing out that the detail at infinity, in those hills, …oh wait, what detail? Are you sure that’s not a watercolor painting? Okay okay, NO being quick to judge allowed! Must. Refrain.

I know that Canon is KNOWN for having grain-free, “silky-smooth” images at ISO 100 and ISO 50. But hey Canon users out there, inform me- THAT is not the kind of “smooth” you’re talking about, right? Cause in my book that is called smeared detail.

I’m sure that in competent hands and with an adequate lens, the 5D mk2 may perform beautifully. Fingers crossed, for Canon’s own sake!

=Matt=

I’m developing my new website, www.matthewsaville.com.

I’m using showit sites, but my hosting with Yahoo is still active, since I have registered my domain name there and I have not determined what would happen if I cancelled my Yahoo hosting and simply paid them my domain registration. (annually instead of monthly) My memory is fuzzy but I seem to remember that Yahoo tried to jack my domain registration fee way up after the first year, coaxing me into paying for a huge $12 / month hosting package that I don’t need. (Godaddy etc. offer lesser packages for as little as $5 a month…) I’ll probably switch in the long run, but don’t have the time right now…

=Matt=

Canon 5D mk2:

- 21 megapixels, NOT the same sensor as the 1Ds mk3. ISO 100-6400, boost to 50 and 25600. (I bet it schools the D3 by a stop or so!)

- 3.9 FPS. (Boooo! Go D300 + D700 = 8 FPS w/grip!!)

- 9 AF points. (Allegedly better than the other 9-point AF systems, but still it ain’t a 45 point pro system, and it isn’t enlarged to cover more of the viewfinder like crop sensors are. Boo.)

- 1080p HDTV. (WOW. NICE!)

- No pop up flash. (Meh. I’d be tempted to say that I’m happier with a pop-up flash than HD video…)

- No pro-series weather sealing. (Not an issue for most studio / portrait / wedding shooters, but I’d rather have a fully sealed camera considering my personal outdoorsy habits…)

- 3″ LCD high res. (Yay, finally…)

…And that’s about it, folks. We saw this coming a mile away, pretty much. I’m sticking with Nikon, but at least now Canon shooting 5D owners don’t have to switch to Nikon too!

Oh and Canon announced a new 24mm f/1.4 that SOUNDS incredibly sharp, and a G10 that seems pretty rad too. Not more read than micro 4/3, but still a sweet little camera…

=Matt=

[EDIT]

They put up the preview today. Here’s some more points:

- IR port for use with those cheap little IR remotes, in addition to the already compatible more high-end remotes… Very nice touch.

- The camera has a built in mic and a built in speaker for the video recording / playback, AND it has a mic-in jack! WOW!!! This is least expected from Canon, considering they have the hugest business in video recording gear already. Awesome job, Canon…

- UPDATE: They have some weird, cryptic spec listed for water resistance: “10mm rain in 3 minutes”. Whatever that means, but I doubt it’s as well-sealed as a 1-series…

- AUTO-ISO: CRIPPLED to 100-3200 range. Canon never ceases to amaze me by making software decisions FOR photographers instead of letting them decide for themselves. Seriously, what if I’m just taking casual goof-off photos and ISO 12800 is totally acceptable? I don’t get to access 6400+ in auto-ISO just because YOU don’t think it’s good enough? Give me a break, Canon.

- BTW, the price is $2699. THAT is nice. Considering THAT price, it is definitely worth it despite it’s drawbacks, if you shoot certain things that most 5D mk1 shooters do.

- NO EF-S lens compatibility, (never will be) and no “high-speed crop” mode like Nikon. Boo.

- HOWEVER, YES, Canon did solve ONE of the major problems I’ve always had with high-res DSLR’s: the 5D mk2 now allows RAW capture in ALL SIZES, 21 mp, 10 mp, and 5.2 mp. God bless you, Canon, I can only hope that the next generation of Nikon cameras will adopt this feature!!!

- They finally adopted something similar to Nikon’s high-tech battery monitor system. Glad to see that SOME features trickle down from the pro series!

- Canon has another wifi vertical grip for the 5D mk2 (like the 40D has) although it obviously needs to use the grip for the wifi hardware, and therefore only holds one battery, for a total of two. No 1-series batteries, no boosted frame rate. Hmm, which do you want more?

- UPDATE: Here’s a view of the viewfinder:

- Same focus point spread as the 5D, which is similarly limited just like the Nikon FX bodies and the Canon 1-series FF bodies.

…I’m having a hard time determining whether or not the off-center focus points are cross-type like in the 40D / 50D, which almost assures that the 5D mk2 retains the weak, NON-cross-type AF points off-center. (The 40D and 50D specs explicitly list that all focus points are cross-type for f/5.6 or faster lenses.) This is of course in my opinion the worst drawback of the 5D mk2. As some of the best professionals in the industry have the guts to admit, the 5D autofocus bites except for the center focus point. I suppose with 21 megapixels you can just compose your subject in the center of the frame every time and just crop hahaha, but that would often kill your “FF DOF + FOV advantage” to well below what a crop sensor would offer.

…For me, and as some of my commenters have already mentioned, this is almost the opposite of the camera I wanted from Canon. To be sure, if I’m a studio photographer, or a landscape photographer, the 5D mk2 is AMAZINGLY AWESOME, considering the sheer resolution and size / weight. Since I DO like landscape photography, I’d be very tempted to buy a 5D mk2 + 17-40 L for landscape work, if I were rich.

…Having said that, I’m not rich and in my day-to-day work, (wedding photojournalism) …I need low-light performance, (check, on both the 5D mk2 and D700) …I need the absolute best AF performance, (no dice on the 5D mk2, check on the D700) …I need spot metering on all my focus points, (no dice on the 5D mk2, check on the D700) …and I need a 5-6 FPS frame rate. (no dice on the 5D mk2, check on the D700) …I also really prefer full viewfinder focus point spread, which NO full-frame camera offers yet, which is one reason (other than price LOL) that I have not yet added FX to my bag.

So in the end, I’m definitely sticking with Nikon. I love the 5D mk2 for it’s low-res RAW capture, that would be awesome for children’s theater, but neither can I afford to simply use the center focus point 100% of the time because the satellite focus points aren’t cross type and don’t have spot metering…

My verdict? Canon REALLY should have just stuck with 12-15 megapixels like Nikon did, and gone for more important feature additions like pro-series autofocus and full spot metering. Not to mention the fact that almost ALL high-end cameras now have 6+ FPS, and ALL the Nikon’s can hit 8 FPS with the grip. Once again, Canon shoots themselves in at least the toes.

I believe that Canon will still sell tons of 5D mk2′s and the camera will take beautiful pictures, however many photographers out there just got tipped in the direction of the D700.

Hopefully the D800 will solve some of the problems remaining with Nikon FX, THEN I can consider it in ~5 years… (Unless the D700 drops below $2000 before then, in which case I’d consider that in 1-2 years…)

Take care, again,
=Matt=

Did you hear that? Someone just broke the f/1.0 barrier. (Again)

Leica just made a 50mm f/0.95. Only available for their M-class rangefinder (manual focus) cameras, however.

Being (apparently) the only ASPHERICAL lens to break the f/1.0 barrier, unlike Canon’s old 50 f/0.95, or the Rodenstock f/0.75…

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091505leica_50mm_f0_95.asp

Don’t worry, it’s only $11,000!

Leica also announced a new version of the M8, and two new f/1.4 wide angle lenses, a 21mm and 24mm… Too bad their M8 (old and new) aren’t full-frame, cause those wide angle lenses would be AWESOME!!!

=Matt=

Not much unlike the Canon 50mm f/1.4′s test, the Nikon 50 1.4 just bombed DPReview’s high-tech lens test. Wide open, the entire frame is “orange-ish” and the corners might even be red. (Green / blue being the best, and red being the absolute worst)

Both lenses are seriously outclassed by the new Sigma 50 1.4 at f/1.4.

Nikon:
http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/nikon_50_1p4_n15/page4.asp

Canon:
http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/canon_50_1p4_c16/page4.asp

Sigma:
http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/sigma_50_1p4_c16/page4.asp

Wide open, the Nikon and Canon are neck and neck, with the Canon being a little sharper in the center. Stopped down to f/2, the Sigma is still in the lead by far (the entire frame is “green” by f/2) however the Nikon takes a lead over the Canon…

NONE of the lenses perform too well on full-frame, sadly. Wide open, the dead-center of the Canon may be sharpest. (But it is a TINY circle in the center!) But stopped down to f/2, the Sigma again takes the lead, The Nikon and Canon barely make it to a “very sharp” center, and ALL have pretty bad corners.

I’ll wait until Photokina when Nikon is alleged to release some new f/1.4 lenses, and then decide what to buy…

One thing is for sure, looking at the corner performance of ALL these lenses on full-frame, I’m very inclined to stick with DX. Maybe a new Nikon, or the Current Canon 50 1.2 L, can do better on full-frame?

=Matt=

It looks like the first DSLR to be announced “for” photokina, (other than the Canon 50D and Nikon D90) …is the Sony A900. The much anticipated 24 megapixel full-frame sensor is here finally!

Some notes:

1.) Sony ONLY says this camera can “meet the demdands of serious enthusiasts!” Wow, they’re STILL not openly going for Canon / Nikon’s jugular? Interesting. I’d say they’re a consideration for even the most demanding pros, but we’ll see…

2.) In-camera stabilization for a full-frame sensor: HERE, they are definitely attacking Canon Nikon head on, mentioning specifically how this system allows a 2.5-4 stop shutter speed advantage, “especially for wide angle and fast-aperture lenses” (where obviously Canon and Nikon have ZERO IS / VR lenses…)

3.) Viewfinder: 100% coverage and 74% magnification. Holy cow, if I’m not mistaken that is bigger than ANY other full-frame DSLR in history.

4.) Dual- processor allows for 5 FPS, even at 24 megapixels RAW.

5.) Has a “DX crop mode” like Nikon FX bodies. Ouch, Canon?

6.) ISO 100-3200, with 6400 as HI.

7.) AF system is 19 point, but only 9 points accessible. (arranged much like Canon’s 5D) Definitely NOT more spread out around the viewfinder than current full-frame DSLR’s, which is my one complaint about full-frame technology so far.

8.) Dual cards with one CF slot, but the 2nd is for MSDuo, a nearly useless memory card type.

9.) Pretty decent control layout, WB and ISO are on their own buttons (unlike Canon) and on the right side of the camera. (unlike Nikon) Also the vertical grip is “dropped” down to a more comfortable level, which LOOKS really weird but actually makes the camera handle incredibly well I would imagine… It also has weather sealing, of course.

10.) Here’s the kicker. Are you ready? $2999. Yep, the busted this out at under $3K. Wowzer. Canon and Nikon are going to hurt a little. Canon’s 21 megapixel 1Ds mk3 is still $7800, and Nikon’s 24 megapixel “equivalent” is not yet here but will undoubtedly cost more than $5000. So it looks like Sony really IS the advanced amateur’s only choice for high-resolution… Now only time will tell if the image quality, autofocus performance, and lens arsenal are up to the task of fully professional photography…

Speaking of lenses, Sony also announced a Zeiss 16-35 f/2.8, sure to make Canon and Nikon shooters alike very jealous, and a 70-400 f/4-5.6 super-zoom, sure to make Nikon 80-400 users jealous…

Gotta get back to work!

=Matt=